On recent trip to NYC stumbled on Dave's New York [581 Avenue of the Americas - #latetotheparty -ed.] Half full of Euros looking for rock bottom prices on jeans, and then construction workers looking for a snap-on hood or extra gloves. Fantastic. Got a pair of recently released "original fit" B01 Carhartts - though in truth that means the recent fit, as opposed to relaxed fit - which is not the 80s straight fit. Anyhow, 12oz duck unwashed, made in the USA, and plenty o' sizes. Have not seen these being crowed about online - good deal.